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Here's their list:

1. The Matrix
2. Battlestar Galactica
3. Blade Runner
4. X-Files
5. Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
6. Brazil (I love them for this)
7. E.T.
8. Star Trek: The Next Generation
9. Aliens
10. The Thing
11. Lost
12. Back to the Future
13. The Terminator/Terminator 2
14. Children of Men
15. Firefly/Serenity
16. Total Recall
17. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
18. Heroes
19. Starship Troopers
20. Star Wars: Clone Wars
21. Futurama
22. Quantum Leap
23. Doctor Who
24. Galaxy Quest
25. V: The Miniseries

Interesting. Care to discuss?

If you want to read the blurbs on each show or movie, go here:
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20036782_20037403_20037541,00.html

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marymary
May. 7th, 2007 06:56 pm (UTC)
Here's most of the blurb on BSG:

The core of the Galactica plot — the last human survivors of a catastrophic genocide are on the run from their attackers, the Cylons — carried a new resonance in the wake of 9/11. And in keeping with science fiction's grandest tradition, BSG tapped into the power of allegory to enrich its outer-space dogfights and military pomp with the gravity of issues like abortion, terrorism, stem-cell research, racism, even the war in Iraq. The dysfunctionally awesome cast gives it all the ring of authenticity: from Edward James Olmos' crusty warhorse Admiral Adama and Mary McDonnell's tender-as-nails President Roslin to Katee Sackhoff's bedeviled pilot Kara Thrace and Tricia Helfer's glacially threatening Cylon known only as Number Six. But the real MVPs of the ensemble are Michael Hogan, who plays Adama's boozy right-hand man Saul Tigh, and James Callis, who makes you feel for Gaius Baltar, the best, most conflicted villain on TV.

POP CULTURE LEGACY: The damned thing won a Peabody award for its second season. It's proving what sci-fi fans have known for decades: Science fiction is as legitimate a vehicle for human drama as any other genre.

THE BEST BIT: While any given episode of Galactica is better than 90 percent of what's on the air, the thrill of discovery makes the first season (including the miniseries) the way to go.


I like that. But my first question is this: Does everybody hate Jamie Bamber and Grace Park because they're beautiful? I don't get how everybody gets mentioned but them. And Tamoh Penikett. Not the first time, either.
marymary
May. 7th, 2007 06:57 pm (UTC)
Wow, I really hate my new journal layout. I'm going to change it asap.
zommbie1
May. 7th, 2007 07:04 pm (UTC)
It tis a bit green darling.

As to the list: well you know me, I love BSG so...

But I am a bit puzzled as to how in the whole world the Clone Wars ended up that high?

I haven't seen all of them but so far I have no arguments with them (appart from the above mentioned)

And I want to thump them for not including the pretty people. Sometimes you need the pretty people.
misreall
May. 7th, 2007 07:26 pm (UTC)
Ok - this is strictly personal, and just based on this list-

1. The Matrix - While of some significance culturally I have never gotten the whole Matrix thing. And I found the second movie appalling.
2. Battlestar Galactica - Well, yay, obviously
3. Blade Runner - As long as it is the director's cut
4. X-Files - While it wore out it's welcome, the stand alone episodes by Darin Morgan are all genius.
5. Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan - Sorry, not a Star Trek person.
6. Brazil - I agree with Mary, this is a great one
7. E.T. - For a kids' movie I think it is a lovely fairy tale
8. Star Trek: The Next Generation - While I liked this show at first it was really just a bunch of insuffrable yuppies with a really great car.
9. Aliens - A great movie, even if Ripley pulls herself out of the vacuum of space.
10. The Thing - I love this movie, love it, and Kurt Russell is a flawless god.
11. Lost - On and off (back on right now)
12. Back to the Future - I particularly love that his dad becomes a SCFI writer.
13. The Terminator/Terminator 2 - The first Terminator was my favorite movie in high school, the second I hardly remember.
14. Children of Men - Um, haven't seen it.
15. Firefly/Serenity - Firefly is my favorite scfi show of all time, but Serenity? Whedon is still dead to me.
16. Total Recall - I don't get this being on the list.
17. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind - Brilliant, funny, and a very good love story. Plus, Tom Wilkinson
18. Heroes - Um, don't watch it.
19. Starship Troopers - I don't care if it is a parody, it was PAINFUL. But highly burnished.
20. Star Wars: Clone Wars - Oh for heaven's sake, if you are listing Star Wars you have to list the first movie, and not try to be cool by making an unpopular choice.
21. Futurama - It is weird to me that this is the only cartoon on the whole thing. Where are the Venture Brothers? Where is Cowboy BeBop? Still, I love Bender.
22. Quantum Leap - Ok show, but so?
23. Doctor Who -Um, this is the longest running show on television, and while I know it is British it should be higher for that reason if no other. And I love it. A lot.
24. Galaxy Quest - Hi-larious.
25. V: The Miniseries - Wow, you show the first water breaking on television and you can get added to any list you want. Actually, considering the 80s this was a pretty good show.

So where is Stargate? Wither Andromeda? (and I don't even really watch those shows). What about the early 90s War of the Worlds, which was gritty and full of intense paranoia? And Brisco Country Jr., which I am willing to bet Joss Whedon would admit was one of the inspirations for Firefly. Or Blake's 7, which was one of the first dystopian shows on tv, without which things like BSG would not be possible.
And I am not even going to start on movies.
Yeesh!
ferfer1
May. 7th, 2007 10:40 pm (UTC)
I've only seen four. Four! I'm not a sci-fi fan though.
marymary
May. 7th, 2007 11:11 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I've seen 17 of them. :-)
marymary
May. 7th, 2007 11:08 pm (UTC)
Yeah, misreall, I'm surprised by a few omissions. But let's see, 25 years ago was...1982!! So that leaves out a lot of movies I'm thinking of. Since they seem to be taking cultural resonance into account, I'm a little surprised they didn't pick one of the new crop of scifi shows that get so much buzz with younger viewers, like Roswell, Supernatural, or Smallville. I thought maybe "comic book" was excluded, but there's Heroes on the list...

And this time next year, you KNOW what I want to see on this list...*points to icon* I also think Eureka should be on this list, after another season or two to prove itself.
seri_scribble
May. 7th, 2007 11:20 pm (UTC)
I can respect most of this list. I am most bothered by Galaxy Quest. I mean really... it was not that fabulous. But I adored Children of Men, T2 and the Matrix.... And wasn't the Wrath of Khan the one with the guy with the obviously plastic chest?

And it's worth noting that Star Wars: Clone Wars is the animated Tv series, not the movie which sucked! (Tragically Star wars and Empire Strikes back don't make the 25 year cut....)
marymary
May. 7th, 2007 11:54 pm (UTC)
Tragically Star wars and Empire Strikes back don't make the 25 year cut..

Yeah, seri, I kept saying to myself, "...but what about...?" and then doing the math. :-) Cause I mean those two SW movies, plus 2001, Metropolis, Close Encounters, War of the Worlds, heh....Plan 9 from Outer Space. :-)

I wonder what George Lucas says when he reads this. Is there a level of money and success beyond which you just don't care?
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tomfoolery815
May. 7th, 2007 11:27 pm (UTC)
I think a shameful omission is "Minority Report." That was outstanding IMO, and classically sci-fi.

It's also my last positive memory of Tom Cruise, so there's some sentimental value. ;-) Plus ... Neal McDonough! And a BSG Hybrid precursor.

6. Brazil (I love them for this)
I loved the movie when I saw it in the theater, but I was surprised to see it on the list. But the more I thought about it, the more I loved the choice, especially the high ranking.

Does everybody hate Jamie Bamber and Grace Park because they're beautiful?
*points to icon* I know I don't. :-)
marymary
May. 7th, 2007 11:47 pm (UTC)
I think a shameful omission is "Minority Report."

You know, that is an excellent point. That really should be on the list.

Plus ... Neal McDonough!

Plus...Colin Farrell! :-D
tomfoolery815
May. 7th, 2007 11:50 pm (UTC)
Plus...Colin Farrell! :-D
Heh. Farrell wasn't really on my radar yet. ;-)

I was predisposed to root for McDonough after BofB, of course. :-)
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marymary
May. 8th, 2007 12:04 am (UTC)
I went to ew.com where people are pointing out omissions. (They've got us covered on Minority Report.)

Others I agree with:

The Abyss
12 Monkeys
Robocop

Lots of Buffy love --- I'm assuming Buffy and lots of other stuff is in a "fantasy" category and they didn't consider those.

Lots of people wailing (no I'm not exaggerating) about Farscape, which I've never seen. Anyone want to enlighten me about that?
marymary
May. 8th, 2007 12:23 am (UTC)
Oh my god, that's so much better. That layout was making my head hurt. Apologies if you felt the same.
tomfoolery815
May. 8th, 2007 12:35 am (UTC)
I'm glad you kept the "just slightly contrary." :-)
gatsbyfan
May. 8th, 2007 12:34 am (UTC)
Wow, I'm not a huge sci-fi fan at all (tend to avoid it) but I'm surprised how many I have watched.

3. Blade Runner (HATE THIS MOVIE!!!)
4. X-Files
7. E.T.
9. Aliens
12. Back to the Future
17. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
22. Quantum Leap
24. Galaxy Quest
25. V: The Miniseries (only a distant memory)
misreall
May. 8th, 2007 12:50 am (UTC)
As huge geek I have seen all but two things. And no one but Katie Holmes parents hate Tom Cruise more than I do and I still think Minority Report deserves to be on that list more than, say, Total Fraking Recall! Jeez, did who the hell thought that was top 25 material?

Another glaring, nay offensive, ommision is mine and mrreall's greatly beloved Babylon 5. Hell, if you can have Galaxy Quest why not Mystery Science Theater 3000?

I would consider both Dresdan Files and Buffy more fantasy, which I am sure is another list they are planning just to make me mad.

marymary
May. 8th, 2007 02:21 am (UTC)
I agree, L. I figured any magicky stuff was in a whole nother bucket. And I actually think they made a mistake including Heroes. If you open the door to all comic-book hero themes, that's a lot of stuff. In a way, Heroes = X-Men, and then you're off to the races.
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marymary
May. 8th, 2007 02:29 am (UTC)
Wow, I'm not a huge sci-fi fan at all (tend to avoid it) but I'm surprised how many I have watched.

I think a lot of people find this is true! Even though I love to make/discuss lists like this, I sort of hate the definition of genres. I like good movies and TV, regardless of the subject matter, and I think when producers and marketers label things they do people a disservice. I used to say I didn't like military themes, and opera, and sports movies. I was wrong, wrong, and wrong. :-) I think it's good to watch things that friends recommend, even when you think it's not your cup of tea. Most often, it's a pleasant surprise.

*sister senses an opening and rushes to my house with a copy of Cinderella Man.*
marymary
May. 8th, 2007 02:30 am (UTC)
The damned thing won a Peabody award for its second season. It's proving what sci-fi fans have known for decades: Science fiction is as legitimate a vehicle for human drama as any other genre.

Plus, you know, what he said. :-D
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