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Pegasus loses its third commander, Lee gets a promotion head-rush, Laura gets political whiplash and Cap Six and Boomer say they want a revolution.

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marymary
Sep. 7th, 2007 10:51 pm (UTC)
The Captain's Hand
RECAP: It’s a month since the shooting on Cloud Nine, and Dee and Lee have been spending it in her bunk. Lee’s been promoted to major and he’s off to Pegasus to support Fisk’s replacement, an engineer named Garner. Kara’s over there running training operations (and being herself) hence Garner needs help.

Two raptors on a training mission disappear after they send a garbled message to Pegasus. Kara decodes the message and guesses that the raptors were lured into a Cylon trap. Instead of sending a recon mission, Commander Garner wants to jump to their location and rescue them; Bill, Kara, Lee and the viewers say “No.” Garner jumps away anyway, Cylons attack, FTL is down, Garner goes to the engine room to fix the problem, which he does but dies in the process. Lee, in command, wages the battle and then jumps Pegasus back to the fleet. Bill promotes him to commander of Pegasus. Lee and Kara make up over her accidentally shooting him and him almost accidentally hurting her feelings.

A Geminese girl named Rya stows away in a container bound for Galactica, seeking Cottle’s help with an abortion. She becomes a political pawn, seeking asylum, getting her abortion, but igniting tensions between Laura and the Geminese delegation, whose support Laura needs in the upcoming presidential election. With the help of Baltar, Laura is convinced that the race will die out if they don’t outlaw abortion, so she does it, looking like she’s going to throw up or cry or both. Baltar, backed by Zarek, takes advantage of the situation and (in one of my favorite twists of all time) becomes the pro-choice candidate for president.
tomfoolery815
Sep. 8th, 2007 04:19 am (UTC)
I don't know how many of you saw the first season of "The Sopranos," but I was reminded of John Heard (Garner) and his work there as I watched here. He excels at playing guys in way over their heads.

Kara’s over there running training operations (and being herself) hence Garner needs help.
In his first moments on Pegasus, Lee is cold toward Kara, but sticks up for her with Garner. He's compartmentalizing his feelings for Kara the Comrade in Arms, and Kara the Malcontent Who Shot Me.

Despite Lee's recommendation, Garner's keeping Kara out of the loop. Kara, wounded and stung by Garner and by Lee, storms into the pilots’ locker room: "Shut the hell up! We lose two Raptors ..." Proving, indirectly, that Mary is right about the calmest person in the room being the one in charge. :-)

Then we're shown Lee on the receiving end of a thoroughly anal-retentive speech by Garner. It's a demonstration, on more than one level, of the conflict between adhering to procedure, and instinct/skill. You can see, quite clearly, which Garner values most.

It occurs to me that, in this episode about leadership, Lee’s not nearly as rigid as Garner, but way less instinctive than Kara. Which, conveniently, leaves him time to continue being pissy with Kara: "It's time for thinking outside the box ... which is supposed to be what you’re best at."
marymary
Sep. 8th, 2007 04:35 am (UTC)
It occurs to me that, in this episode about leadership, Lee’s not nearly as rigid as Garner, but way less instinctive than Kara.

I agree that it's about leadership. It makes me think about the end of the episode, where Bill asks Lee what Garner's flaw was. "He was good with machines; leadership is about people." So I'm led to think...if that's true, then Garner is a bad leader and I'd have to say Kara is a bad leader. Lee's not always good with people, necessarily, but he's way better than the other two. A good example is the thing you brought up, Tom. Lee's bitchy to Kara but he backs her in CIC. I think that's less about considering Kara his comrade and more about siding with the right answer. In other words, he's able to put his considerable emotions aside and think about command and the mission first.

(He's always good at that. It's when nothing major is going down that he gets all whiny and random. But if another person is in trouble or there's a mission at hand, he can just shove his feelings in a box to do the thing.)

Another thing that comes to mind: I like Lee’s entrance to the ready room, or whatever that is, on Pegasus. Kara and the other pilots are making fun of Garner, but Lee’s all “Lock that shit up.” And he’s right, of course. That’s right just on the face of it --- you don’t sit around bad-mouthing the commander. Kara's not acting like a leader, she's acting like one of the guys --- like she has nothing to lose. But I think I can also also see Kara’s POV, which is that the pilots won’t let her into their confidence and she needs that, so my guess is that she’s taking whatever opening she gets. Anyway, I see this as another example of Lee being able to see the right answer as a leader and go with it. Though he is very snarky to Kara. Maybe uncalled for, but not really getting in the way of taking charge of the room.

So that's if we say Lee's right: Leadership is about people. I think, to your point Tom, leadership is also about having a vision, which includes planning and stragegy and that's where Kara's "outside the box" stuff really becomes valuable. Makes you think if you could mush Kara and Lee into one person.... :-)
marymary
Sep. 8th, 2007 04:39 am (UTC)
Speaking of those two, I love how it’s so clear, even right away, that Lee and Kara have been avoiding each other in the month since the shooting on Cloud Nine. When Lee boards Pegasus, Kara hides and waits for him to come down the hallway. He calls her his welcoming party, and she says, “Don’t flatter yourself; I was in the neighborhood.” Which is like the opposite of true. And for the rest of the ep, until their blowup, there’s this tension between them – they’re hyper-aware of each other but not necessarily nice. Which, a) really tracks with the last scene of Sacrifice, where Kara was lurking in the background, just watching him...

...and b) makes sense of what I consider to be an over-reaction by Dee at the top of this episode. When Lee says he’s been staffed to Pegasus partly because Kara’s giving Garner trouble, Dee says, “Is she in hack again?” The way she says it is way too loud, way too sharp. Like she’s supposed to be finding it funny, but there’s too much nervous energy behind it. So where is that coming from? Dee’s very smart about emotional stuff, and my wank is that she’s very aware that Lee has some very complex feelings about Kara and that it’s not just because she shot him.
marymary
Sep. 8th, 2007 04:48 am (UTC)
One more post before I turn in...

Not to be overly snarky, but every time I see Rya peek over a box in the cargo container and say to Chief, “Are you Doctor Cottle?”, I want Chief to say “Yes. I’m the only doctor on this entire battlestar, but I spend my free time checking in containers at the cargo bay.”
tomfoolery815
Sep. 8th, 2007 04:48 am (UTC)
I think that's less about considering Kara his comrade and more about siding with the right answer. In other words, he's able to put his considerable emotions aside and think about command and the mission first.
You're right, it is that. It's not mere "I have rolled with her" loyalty, as my phrasing suggested.

That’s right just on the face of it --- you don’t sit around bad-mouthing the commander.
She apparently was sleeping one off the day they said that to command authority, you have to respect it.

Kara's not acting like a leader, she's acting like one of the guys --- like she has nothing to lose. But I think I can also also see Kara’s POV, which is that the pilots won’t let her into their confidence and she needs that, so my guess is that she’s taking whatever opening she gets.
I think it's the only way Kara can think of to lead. Or the only way she is willing to try.

You'd want Kara on your side in a fight, but she's not much for the order of military life, is she? She wants to be the CAG because it's one of the measures of Best Pilot, and she excels in disordered situations, such as dogfights with Cylon Raiders. It's the most fun she has with her clothes on. It's when the bullets stop flying that Kara Thrace can't get out of her own way.
watson1
Sep. 9th, 2007 07:07 pm (UTC)
Sorry I haven't been here yet. I actually ended up with a social life yesterday, so I was out most of the day. Today, my parents decided to make a last minute visit to my house. I'll be here tomorrow night (I swear).*

*Yes, yes I know that you all are getting tired of me saying I'll be here soon. I'll try to be better. :)
tomfoolery815
Sep. 9th, 2007 07:33 pm (UTC)
There's a great moment in the scene where Kara finally tears it with Garner: Lee says that Kara has a theory about the missing pilots, but her name is already mud with Garner, so he's contemptuous. Repeating Garner's words, she says "My 'so-called training missions.' "

JB does a great job of conveying Lee's instantaneous "Oh, shit!" reaction. He says "OK, let’s just take this easy," and it sounds as if he's saying it to both of them, but he's looking directly across Garner at Kara. He's been here before, and he knows where this is headed.

In that same scene, Garner reveals that someone in the ready room has ratted her out. She says she was “Just venting ..." and then adds "accurately.” I was thinking of this moment when I wrote that she can't get out of her own way -- and, IIRC, there have been comparable moments prior to this. But, thinking about it some more, I wonder if this isn't Kara thinking she's already way at the back of the doghouse, so she might as well get her licks in while she has the chance. What do you guys think?
marymary
Sep. 10th, 2007 02:36 am (UTC)
I wonder if this isn't Kara thinking she's already way at the back of the doghouse, so she might as well get her licks in while she has the chance. What do you guys think?

Yeah, Tom, I agree. I definitely got the feeling that she felt she had nothing to lose with Garner. She's pretty reckless with her mouth in any situation, but here she seems to know there's no point in trying to get back in his good graces. Plus, she has such contempt for him. They really are opposites. That speech he gives about how he and his fellow engineers keep the trains running on time --- pilots like Kara epitomize what he hates. No discipline, no respect, all the glory. And it seems his contempt is returned by her. So I think you're definitely reading that situation right.
marymary
Sep. 10th, 2007 02:43 am (UTC)
(sorry for the reposting...)

Lee picks a fight with Kara. You know, I have to say I just love that Jamie Bamber totally gets who Lee is. He IS a tough guy --- he is absolutely equal to whatever task you give him. Brave, thrifty, clean and reverent...mad flying skills, awesome tactician, commands authority, totally capable of fucking you up if you deserve it. And he’s also a kid who didn’t get enough of something somewhere along the line, so he gets bitchy a lot, like “Hey, what about me? I’m worth something and I want you to tell me that.” And, underlying all that, he’s a genuinely sweet and giving person.

So when he walks into the locker room, he wants something from Kara. It’s been a month, and he hasn’t gotten the warmth from her that he expected after the shooting (no doubt she’s been avoiding the emerging Lee/Dee thing) so...bitchy. Like with his dad, I guess, he misdirects and makes it about something else and about her, not about his insecurity, cause it’s too painful to ask for the love and the blahblahblahaffirmationcakes*. Lee: “What's my problem? What's my problem? Well Kara, my problem is you. You keep frakking up, and I keep having to clean it up, and I am officially...sick of it. Kara: “Poor Lee, your life is so hard, isn't it?” Lee: “You mean since I got shot.”

And right there, the look on his face. He regrets it the second it’s out of his mouth. He sees how hurt she is that she shot him and how bad she feels --- he sees that he was wrong going at her in this way to get what he wanted. Because it’s all there on her face and he realizes he should have known it all along.

Flash forward to Lee and Kara making up in the way that they always do, which is to trade these really lame put-downs. It’s cute. There’s a moment there when Lee is very hot, IMO. “So I guess when I showed up on Pegasus, and there you were doing it all over again-- I don't know. Pissed me off.” When he says “Pissed me off.” Something about his manner --- very tough and at the same time sort of distracted and off-hand. For some reason, that moment gives me the goosebumps. :-) And then the truly stupid joke, "You have a brain?" But it's very them, and it's cute. And a great face on Kara when they hug. Some people say they can hear him say something like “forever” at that point. I don’t hear it, but she’s definitely reacting to something --- you can see it on her face.

*tm amycurl
marymary
Sep. 10th, 2007 02:47 am (UTC)
I always enjoy Zarek. I don’t like him, exactly, but he’s very interesting. I like that he knows he can’t win the electino and puts Baltar up to it. I love his speech to Baltar: “You’d be surprised how many people crave the assurances of cold science as opposed to the superstitious ravings of the Geminese...As a scientist, you offer hope.” I like it because it’s exactly what you say to Baltar. 1. "They are stupid; you are smart." 2. "You don’t have to redeem yourself, you don’t have to become a hero; you’re a hero by your very nature.” (I find this ties to Baltar in Season 3, FWIW.) I also like it because it appeals to me, personally. I’m one of those people he’s talking about. :-)
tomfoolery815
Sep. 10th, 2007 02:51 pm (UTC)
who Lee is ... a genuinely sweet and giving person.
I completely agree with your Lee deconstruction, Mary. It would seem you've spent some time thinking about him. ;-)

And right there, the look on his face. He regrets it the second it’s out of his mouth.
Yes. That was so well-executed, both by JB and photographically.

There's a yin/yang to Kara and Lee that arises in good situations and bad: Lee wants/needs to put words to what's going on with them; Kara would rather do anything but that, or feels that words are unnecessary. Notably, in the face of this really low blow from Lee -- when the more verbose among us would fire back with a hurt "How could you think that?" or a furious "How dare you!" -- Kara's hurt, but she lets it pass without comment. She says "You wanna hear what I think happened to Buster or not?" Changing the subject, obviously.

Then, at the end of the ep, she's teasingly congratulating him:
LEE: I know why I was mad at you, Kara.
KARA: A simple 'Thank you' would have been sufficient.
It's so charmingly Kara, but it's also illustrative: There's no need to get all messy again, all right?

And then the truly stupid joke, "You have a brain?" But it's very them, and it's cute.
I burst out laughing the first time I watched it. It's so out-of-character for Sensitive, Serious Lee. JB knocks it out of the park with his delivery, and the comic timing of the moment is perfect.

The yin/yang came up at the start of "Resurrection Ship II" as well, in the just-love-no-UST scene with the awesome hugging. It's sweet to hear Lee articulate with "People have to have this, Kara. Trust." And they go from a handshake to a hug. But it's a hug that Kara initiates, since that was all she needed. She doesn't say anything other than "Thank you" in response.

Maybe, here, it's Kara knowing that nothing more needs to be said. Or maybe she's gotten used to Lee doing all the talking about feelings in their relationship. :-)
watson1
Sep. 11th, 2007 12:56 am (UTC)
Okay, I'm finally here. :-)

First off, I agree with all of your comments about the Kara and Lee interactions in this episode. Specifically, I was saying yes, yes as I was reading through the earlier posts. :)

Kara's hurt, but she lets it pass without comment. She says "You wanna hear what I think happened to Buster or not?" Changing the subject, obviously.

This really struck me, too Tommy. When Lee said: "You mean since I got shot." I remember Kara just turning away, and staring at the locker. She doesn't say anything for a minute, but then just changes the subject. It's so Kara. She has to walk away from the messy, emotional stuff that she can't handle.

Then, at the end of the ep, she's teasingly congratulating him:
LEE: I know why I was mad at you, Kara.
KARA: A simple 'Thank you' would have been sufficient.
It's so charmingly Kara, but it's also illustrative: There's no need to get all messy again, all right?


When I watched the final scene, I immediately focused on the handshake that neither one of them would let go of. Kara doesn't want to say the words, but does show her feelings through her actions. She keeps holding Lee's hand, and then when they hug, it's a long hug. Words aren't acceptable to her, but physical interaction is fine.






watson1
Sep. 11th, 2007 01:02 am (UTC)
I always enjoy Zarek. I don’t like him, exactly, but he’s very interesting. I like that he knows he can’t win the electino and puts Baltar up to it. I love his speech to Baltar: “You’d be surprised how many people crave the assurances of cold science as opposed to the superstitious ravings of the Geminese...As a scientist, you offer hope.” I like it because it’s exactly what you say to Baltar. 1. "They are stupid; you are smart." 2. "You don’t have to redeem yourself, you don’t have to become a hero; you’re a hero by your very nature.” (I find this ties to Baltar in Season 3, FWIW.) I also like it because it appeals to me, personally. I’m one of those people he’s talking about. :-)

I don't particularly like Zarek either Mary, but he is interesting to watch. My sense of that scene is that he knew exactly how to manipulate Baltar to get what he wants. As you said: I like it because it’s exactly what you say to Baltar.

Zarek can't run, but believes that either a) he can manipulate Baltar if he becomes president or b) he doesn't care about Baltar being president at all. He just wants someone other than Laura. Regardless, Zarek would get what he wants -- a role in the political scene.

watson1
Sep. 11th, 2007 01:39 am (UTC)
Now a few words about the abortion issue. No surprise there. :)

1) I love Doc Cottle. I love his interaction with Rya, and his "interference" when Bill turned into paternalistic caveman. Beyond Cottle's witty lines throughout all the seasons, I do love that he is totally focused on doing what is best for his patients. Screw the larger political issues. :)

2) I detested Bill in this episode. When I said paternalistic caveman in the earlier statement, I meant it. Clearly, Bill is anti-choice. Rather than even attempting to discuss the reasons why Rya went to see Doc Cottle, he tried to side-step the issue and fell back on the "your parent's are worried about you." And he was annoyed when Cottle interrupted him. Furthermore, rather than have an objective discussion with Laura about whether abortion should be criminalized -- he manipulated her emotions. That's why he focused on the number of people who were still alive.

3) I was more disappointed in Laura than angry. She was clearly pro-choice, and sacrificed her beliefs. Now, I'm torn about whether she did so for political considerations only, or because she truly believed it was the only way to keep the population increasing. More likely, it was a combination of both. I do not believe that her decision was consistent with her character at all. While we've certainly seen her make difficult decisions before, I don't recall her ever sacrificing her principles before.
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