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My favorite Faux Space Family begins its trek across wherever. Let's talk about:

- 33
- Water
- Bastille Day

Jacob never recapped this season, so there's a dearth of pith and wisdom out there and I feel like we can fix that. (Plus, "dearth of pith"? That was fun to say.)

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tomfoolery815
Nov. 18th, 2006 09:04 pm (UTC)
But I don't think any other human uses "God".
Not that I've seen, either. All the humans that aren't atheists are polytheists, right?

It suggests that, as an atheist and a man of science, he's only recently begun considering the possibility of a deity, and that Chip Six is the greatest influence on this consideration. If he'd been a religious human before, he'd use the plural, right?
marymary
Nov. 18th, 2006 09:35 pm (UTC)
Right, he would use the plural. I don't think that Six has helped Baltar consider the possibilitiy of God; I think that he's a committed atheist and, when the subject of deity comes up, he uses the singular for some reason. Yes, maybe because he keeps hearing her talk about God. I think that, later in the series, he considers the possibility that she's right about everything.
ok_with_that
Nov. 22nd, 2006 11:39 pm (UTC)
Right, he would use the plural. I don't think that Six has helped Baltar consider the possibilitiy of God; I think that he's a committed atheist and, when the subject of deity comes up, he uses the singular for some reason. Yes, maybe because he keeps hearing her talk about God.

OK, yeah, I'm sposed to be someplace else right now ;), but I wanted to re-read what you guys have said, so I can think for a while...

And here?

I wonder if it isn't that having listened to Six repeatedly demand a controlling place for her "One God" in the Fate of the Universe, he has come in some way to *blame* her God for all of the mess they're in.

Even as he doesn't believe in a God or gods himself, he can't seem to blame Six (either personally, or as Representative Cylon) *directly.* And given who he is (most of the time, anyway), he can't bring himself to blame himself, or step up and take real responsibility...

I'm not being very articulate here, I know. Core thought: Maybe he's displacing his own guilt and fear and discomfort with the situation off on to Six's God?

His reply *is* that God doesn't have anything to do with the solution he offers that might *save* them in that moment, right?

just.a.thought.back.in.a.bit
ok_with_that
Nov. 23rd, 2006 12:58 am (UTC)
Alternative:

Maybe he's just so in-his-head (with Six) he doesn't hear Billy say gods at all? That is, he's not paying close enough attention to his physical world to catch his slip?
marymary
Nov. 23rd, 2006 01:18 am (UTC)
Yeah, but he does it consistently (going forward).

IMO, having him believe in God or gods at this point is not really supported by what we've seen. I still think he's an atheist who talks about the deity in the singular because Six talks about it that way and it just comes out.
ok_with_that
Nov. 23rd, 2006 01:27 am (UTC)
I agree. I guess I'm just trolling for motivation, were there to be any. I don't think he *believes*; it *does* seem to just come out.

But if there *were* something behind it, I'd say he's looking for a scapegoat. A God he doesn't believe in might fit the bill in a pinch.*

*I could be wrong again. :P Especially if it continues to come up in later episodes.

going back to watching now