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My favorite Faux Space Family begins its trek across wherever. Let's talk about:

- 33
- Water
- Bastille Day

Jacob never recapped this season, so there's a dearth of pith and wisdom out there and I feel like we can fix that. (Plus, "dearth of pith"? That was fun to say.)

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tomfoolery815
Nov. 24th, 2006 07:12 am (UTC)
Re: Water
(I don't have a Lee icon; I'll just have to go back to the Chief.) :-)

Roslin: “But a leader remembers and learns from his mistakes.”
I liked this a lot. Especially "I don't have a desk yet, but I have a pocket." It reminded me of Jed going out to Dover AFB at the end of "The War at Home," insofar as it's an acceptance of responsibility: I had a difficult decision to make, I made the best one I could, but it was not without human consequences.

I know I like Laura's answer better than I like Bill's. There seems to be a little too much John Wayne in Bill's; he says "live with it," but it feels a little like "shit happens." I know it's not completely that, but it is somewhat, I think. Laura's is much more "Those are actual human beings that my decision affected. I cannot forget that. This slip of paper will help me remember." Having that in her pocket means Laura won't ever forget that actual lives are involved in these monumental decisions.
marymary
Nov. 24th, 2006 03:48 pm (UTC)
Re: Water
"Those are actual human beings that my decision affected. I cannot forget that. This slip of paper will help me remember." Having that in her pocket means Laura won't ever forget that actual lives are involved in these monumental decisions.

Yes. Which is what "a man" should do, don't you think. :)
tomfoolery815
Nov. 24th, 2006 10:09 pm (UTC)
Re: Water
Yes, I do think so. :-)
marymary
Nov. 24th, 2006 05:57 pm (UTC)
Re: Water
Your post makes me think of Laura's and Bill's positions as a dichotomy --- of parenting, of government, of responsibility. Like Bill is the military/dictator's vision --- don't question, stay strong, never waver. Laura's is, not surprisingly, the view of democracy --- our strength lies in our flexibility and our willingness to question ourselves and our government. As the series progresses, the way these two sides work (on the fleet, on the government, and on Lee) becomes more interesting.
tomfoolery815
Nov. 25th, 2006 05:11 am (UTC)
Re: Water
No wonder I prefer Laura to Bill. I still want to get Jed Bartlet a third term. :-)
ok_with_that
Nov. 25th, 2006 05:19 am (UTC)
Re: Water
Like Bill is the military/dictator's vision --- don't question, stay strong, never waver.

I've been thinking about this all day. Am I crazy because I half-want to see Bill have a bit of a breakdown? He's working so hard, to repress so much, it seems to me...

(I watched through Act of Contrition this afternoon. So much to think about, to discuss... Forgive me for watching the Bobby cast on Larry King first? ;)
tomfoolery815
Nov. 25th, 2006 06:32 am (UTC)
Re: Water
(I watched through Act of Contrition this afternoon. So much to think about, to discuss... Forgive me for watching the Bobby cast on Larry King first? ;)
I didn't hear anything after "I watched through 'Act of Contrition.' " ;-) Considering what you did instead? You're excused, my dear. :-)
ok_with_that
Nov. 25th, 2006 06:40 am (UTC)
Re: Water
....and now Anderson Cooper is interviewing Whoopi, Billy and Robin over Comic Relief: New Orleans, Iraq... I've been sucked in. ;)

Whoopi is a BSG fan. She said so.

Anderson had no idea what a Ferenghi might be.
marymary
Nov. 25th, 2006 04:22 pm (UTC)
Re: Water

: )

Um, right... Bill.

Am I crazy because I half-want to see Bill have a bit of a breakdown? He's working so hard, to repress so much, it seems to me...

He does go through a lot of changes. I think at this point in the story, we're establishing who he is --- kind of default position Bill.

(sorry for the edit, C. My italics ended up very confusing.)
amycurl
Jun. 4th, 2007 03:12 pm (UTC)
Re: Water
I think of it less of a dichotomy, and more of a yin/yang, where there is some overlap. Maybe the two of them start out as more of a true dichotomy, of truly opposing dualism. But I think...and I'm getting some of this even now...that they end more yin/yang. Black and white, male and female, searching for balance. Because balance makes it whole. :-)
marymary
Jun. 4th, 2007 11:11 pm (UTC)
Re: Water
Yeah, I think that's a much better way to describe it! Right now there's so much push/pull and friction and yin/yang sounds so harmonious. But you're right, they're moving toward yin/yang --- that's definitely where they end up. Good one!